Mish, Marx and the Future of Capitalism
69The Future of Capitalism and the Distribution of Wealth
First I would say that one can learn a lot from Mike Shedlock (Mish). I enjoy reading his blog and commenting on it. Mish may be be wrong, however, about the uselessness of pouring money into black holes like Freddie and Fannie.
We may be facing the demise of the 30 year mortgage and maybe that is what we need, but the demise of the GSE's and possible the 30 year mortage will be accompanied by severe economic cost. Even Republicans who want to destroy the GSE's want guarantees for loans. Without the guarantees, the investors will not invest in the mortgages or will drive interest rates sky high. I do not pretend to know the answers, because without tight underwriting, the 30 year mortgage actually drives prices for houses artificially high. I have been watching carefully, the behavior of the Fed and the big banks in Foreclosuregate, and have determined that securitization is a very dangerous thing when it comes to mortgages. Yes, without it the economy is facing bleak prospects, but securitization is predatory madness.
I agree with Mish that the rating agencies furthered a bank scam with their unreal rosy ratings of very bad bonds and loans. It is because of this behavior all around that I advocate walking away from mortgages, guilt free. (Check with the state laws where you reside before doing it!) We agree that lack of regulation of shadow banking was a huge reason for the ponzi banking scheme.
But I have come across a few things other concepts where I disagree with Mish. I have seen him make a relentless attack on state and local government. While I agree that, for example, police officers are paid too much, causing too few to be hired when more are needed, I disagree that we need to bust unions, kill wages for state governments, etc. Perhaps it is one of degree, but I fail to see how a major attack on wages of union and state workers would help the middle class survive. Seems to me this is just another way for the wealthy to pay fewer taxes.
With regard to Marx and his views on the middle class, Mish is the defender of the lower middle class business person. He is the defender of the small businessman and the shopkeeper. He even encourages the shopkeeper to toot the horn of capitalist goodness.
Don't get me wrong, I do not support a dictatorship of the proletariat. But I do support some inroads by the proletariat as a means of fostering a lasting capitalism, albeit a modified one. I support a more improved face of capitalism, one in which union members make a decent wage, where the guy without the small business can prosper. I don't think that proletariat prosperity has any place in Mish's philosophy.
Mish wants a capitalism where the proletariat is at the mercy of capital. Sorry, Mish. It won't work. It would seem that the lower middle class (which has begun to move up the ranks since Marx wrote a long time ago), ie the shopkeeper and small businessman, has been really hurt by the big capitalist, the real villain and enemy of Marx.
Please read on below.
Disaster Capitalism
Marx Identified the Economic Problem
While Marx did not have the correct solution, he did identify the problem,
ie that the small businessman will cry for the reestablishment of
credit in times of financial turbulence, even though credit strengthens
the monopolies and creates a financial aristocracy, that acts as a blood sucking parasite of speculation upon the wealth of the society.
So
while I agree with Mish about deflationary pressures, and about the
need for frugal living and correction of personal balance sheets, I think Mish and Marx (and myself) have a lot in common in their disdain for the credit cabal that rules the world. Marx's
solution was the dictator of the proletariat. Mish's solution as I
understand it is the dictatorship of free market capitalism, sans the
Federal Reserve and any market manipulation. It would seem that both
solutions will never arrive at success.
But a compromise of the two could effect success. Strong small business and
strong unions seem to be a buffer against the large fascistic
capitalist and financial power, which uses government and market
manipulation to succeed. If we destroy either of these pillars of the
average Joe, we will not prosper as a nation.
I disagree with Mish that pure capitalism sans unions and labor will work.
Greed has to be distributed, not concentrated. I don't for a minute
trust totally free market capitalism to give a bone to the proletariat.
Mish and Marx both wanted concentrated power to offset the
concentrated power of the large capitalist. Mish wanted the power in
the hands of small capitalists and ethical large capitalists. Marx
wanted power in the hands of the non capitalist, ie the proletartiat. I
say that neither position is necessary and indeed work against
capitalism. I would rather see power in the hands of many groups and
players.
I am reminded of the James Hoffa letter to Lloyd Blankfein which encouraged Mr. Blankfein to not drive YRC stock into the ground. I remember joking that Mr. Hoffa could scare Lloyd into compliance. While I don't know if that happened, Mr. Hoffa got his way. This is interest group dynamic and power at work. I wonder if Mish would be proud. Well, if he had any respect for unions he could be, but I doubt it.
I have argued for free markets, for allowing the TBTF banks to actually fail. I have argued for less manipulation of markets. All these need to happen within the framework of a fair wage to workers although, at times, these goals seem to be mutually exclusive. If workers lose so much leverage that they have to work for substandard wages, this becomes a threat to real capitalism (not Wall Street corporatism or mercantilism).
Marx had a solution to capitalism, the state central bank, with profits going to the party to be dispersed. However, that would likely not work, and yet what we have is quite different though based upon the model. We have a central bank, private in the US and now public in England, that privatizes profits, and socializes losses. Taxpayers pay for failures in the bets the private banks make, and the central banks allow the bets!
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Where is the right answer? Humans will not allow the middle of the road. They either go either one extreme or the other. Thank you for interesting read.
bgamall,
well done hub. klein's take on a new economy based on never-ending war is spot on, as is the d'amato link you provided.
thanks for this well-researched info.
Bgamail. I had to get out the dictionary to read this hub and I learned somethings here. Thanks for the hub.
I align more with the capitalistic side, because it is only thing that really makes money and get things done. Even China is using capitalistic corporation to come in and build in China to get the work done, because they cannot get it done. A lot of the largest corporations are from socialistic countries.
The is a place for unions, but a lot of the unions are lost and have too much corruption in them.
Thanks
Keep on hubbing!
You certainly seem close to correct on all fronts. I do love your hubs. You continue to be one of the best "read" anywhere. Thanks
The failure of the 'communistic' approach came about because it sought to compete with capitalism (propaganda-wise. The Soviets were very efficient at churning out massive amounts of goods. Unfortunately, they were always three decades behind fashions/trends and ended up with tons of shit nobody, even behind the Iron Curtain, ever wanted. (That productivity sure came in handy, however, right after Stalingrad.)
More isn't always better. Number don't lie, but they don't tell the whole truth either. The issue isn't so much production as consumption and to produce useless goods and base an economic system upon them is a recipe for disaster. 'Financial' products represent the apex of non-productive production.
What a dilemma you've presented. Pure capitalism doesn't work because of greed.
Capitalism that is, as you put it, "in the hands of many players" including unions, suffers from greed as well. Perhaps this second form of capitalism survives longer, but eventually those who can acquire the most money will do it, forcing the other 'players' out of the picture bit by bit.
You remarked that ideally consumers need to live within their means (perhaps below their means). You're correct again; however, human nature trumps our desire to live within our means-greed wins again.
Greed is a destroyer, and we humans have never managed to tame it. IMO the best we could hope for under the most desirable capitalist system is an extension. Eventually human nature will have its way.
Good presentation.
I do not believe any amount of manipulating of the current economic model will produce any significant or adequate result, simply because the model does not hold water as a sustainable gaming theory; it has been an utter failure, it has needed intervention since its inception and it still is an addictive vise of greed; it is not a civil model for distribution of wealth...
The only way to have parity is a full distribution of wealth that stays in play without opportunity for hoarding and manipulation; that would be worker owned and operated industry, commerce, and business using the Nash Equilibrium Model... With the implementation of the Constitution as it was intended- self-ruling democracy, this strategy would more than correct, it would solve economic chaos for ever.
Would it not be prudent to provide the incentive to everyone to create??? Smaller piles of wealth are harder to pilfer as we are witnessing at the moment; that is why one is not willing to jeopardize the position one holds; but a distribution of potential provides the will to create gaining the capacity requires the ability... This is what is lacking in profit based capitalism...
Service based capitalism would serve the world in a better fashion by providing the potential for developing ability and capacity of worth wealth and value in all walks of life...
They can only manipulate the market so much, because someone can always open up a business and compete with them. Some of the liberist/democrat own corporations are the worse. Microsoft has not real competition, and the government is not doing anything about it. Why? Could it be the liberal Bill Gates is in bed with the government. I have never trusted Bill Gates, when he takes a friends program and sells it to the computer industry and calls it DOS. And he left his friend out in the cold. This so you how much scrubbles Bill Gates had/has.
Keep on hubbing!
bgamall: Informative and well reasoned,great hub.

















Sandyspider Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago
Alway good to read you views.