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See results without votingStan Humphries of Zillow Wants People Out
Stan Humphries is chief economist of Zillow.com., the real estate listing service that recently went public on the stock exchange. He is literally gushing in his desire to get people move out of their multi generational housing arrangements which could create profits down the road for Zillow. And he is not alone. Bloomberg has a story through the IB Times about advertizing agency operatives wanting to brand young men who stay with their parents as losers.
This is a concerted effort at brainwashing people. This is metaprogramming, a method of mind control. The Ad agency guy, Peter Francese said this:
“In America, the extended family is a very unstable household,” he said. “Most guys who live at home beyond some young age walk around with a great big L on their forehead. It is just not acceptable. As soon as these young adults get a job and keep it for some reasonable period, they are gone. As more young people feel they will be able to keep a job, bingo, they are gone.”
The idea that the extended family is unstable is a ridiculous statement. And the "L" this guy talks about is really playing to the psychology of the young person, unsettling him with a manufactured Wall Street type message. The Wall Street boys want new family formation and indeed, Zillow's Humphries is just one fellow that seems desperate for new household formation. But just like we had to go to two worker households, in the last century, economic necessity has made multi generational living a very viable alternative. And not only can folks survive in this model, but they can prosper and save money and have a debt free life using this living arrangement!
Daily Ticker ran the Humphries interview and this is a paraphrase of a couple of points he made:
Rental supply is tight and prices could rise 4 percent each of the next two years. This is an opportunity for investors. We gotta get those people who are doubling up out of those multi generational households.
Anyone can plainly see, that getting those people out is key to future housing and rental demand. Zillow is not your friend, and they are out for profit. They don't care about your bottom line, but rather about their own bottom line only, IMO.
The Rebuttal to This Article from Katie at Zillow
Katie from Zillow here. I work closely with Stan Humphries.
I just wanted to clarify that Zillow does not have a position on multi-generational housing. It is certainly a good choice for many families, for both economic and non-economic reasons.
What we addressed was involuntary doubling up because of the recession, and how the trend affects the housing market. Statistically, the incidence of households doubling up has increased by nearly 11% from 2007 to 2011, according to the Census. For adults aged 25 to 34, it has increased by nearly 26%. This takes a lot of potential homebuyers out of the market, and buyers are essential for an eventual housing market recovery.
Gary Anderson here:
I wrote the article because guys like Humphries were against the young being part of this multigenerational mix. While Zillow apparently is not opposed to mulitgenerational households filled with older people, that company knows what the IMF knows, that a cutback on household formation will cost the financial cartel dearly, and thus Zillow who lists houses for sale, dearly as well. But the morality of young people staying home with mom and dad in order to save money and secure a financial future is their choice, and is a slap in the face to big finance.
Perhaps big finance should have thought about this the first time they decided to create a real estate bubble and enrich themselves at main street's expense!
The heat Is on to Sway Public Opinion Against Multi Generational Living
- Zillows Humphries Advice to Congress on How to Fix Housing: First Do No Harm | Daily Ticker - Yahoo!
Read 'Zillows Humphries Advice to Congress on How to Fix Housing: First Do No Harm' from our blog Daily Ticker on Yahoo! Finance. Follow The Daily Ticker on Facebook here! The housing market showed signs of improvement this week, but without ques - Bloomberg: Household Formation Begins to Pick Up, as Young Men Don\'t Want to be Tagged Losers - Loo
Back in the depths of the Great Recession we often wrote about the atypical issues hitting the economy such as people renting out rooms in their homes at a much higher rate than normal, couples who wanted a divorce but could not afford to live on the - CNBC, Metaprogramming and the Rising Stock Market - Seeking Alpha
My basic article at Seeking Alpha regarding metaprogramming.
Multi Generational Housing Defeats the Tea Party/IMF Alliance!
The Tea Party is out to attack many benefits that main street average folks get from the government. These benefits are being pared back, and the result will be even a greater need for multi generational or multi-generational living. Some Republicans want the cutting of social security, medicare and other benefits, while banks and the rich are untouchable regarding the raising of their taxes. We know that commodities are churned to higher prices not just by demand but by white hot trading of contracts and futures by the investment banks. This speculation is allowed by both parties and is an attack upon main street and your budget as prices are artificially high for gasoline, food and other commodities.
Of course, mainly the Republicans want another housing bubble, as they attack the Dodd-Frank law, and the IMF wants austerity and a rekindling of securitization of mortgages, that led to the last housing bubble. This IMF/Republican alliance must be fought, and the best way to fight it is by multi generational living. It is even patriotic to do so. Please consider it both as a means for survival and as an effective means to create wealth.
Wall Street wants old and young to be divided and there are many articles setting them apart, making them want to fragment. Multi generational house arrangements destroy this little Wall Street scam by bringing the generations together. It is good that the generations seek to be together because that strengthens main street.
Now we know that there could be a housing shortage in the big prosperous cities in the next few years. If that is the case people making big money will have much of that income eaten up in rent and buying expensive housing. This is where multi generational housing will become very important in the near future, as the new bubbles will likely start in the pricey cities that did not sufficiently crash!
In summary, we can fight the IMF/Republican attacks and all manner of speculative price gouging through cutting costs and frugality, and multi generational housing is a component of that frugality. And we can fight another easy money housing bubble by refusing the toxic and hurtful lending products that were offered in the last housing bubble.
What the IMF Wants: Attack on Main Street!
- Are Republicans Agents Of The IMF? Look At Italy!
Eric Cantor is likely an agent of the banking cabal. - The IMF War On Main Street: Housing Bubble By 2020 And More Fees
Trust in Banking Institutions Must Continue to Wain - IMF Wants Implicit Guarantees for Loans Just like Wells Fargo
Educators Are Worried About Lack of Household Formation!
The Stupid NY Times Disparages Graduates Living at Home
Leave it to the NY Times, a newspaper that was once great when Will Rogers was a columnist but is now a shadow of it's former self, came out against graduates living at home saying that it robs the economy. Well, NYT how about the banksters robbing the economy? And right in your neighborhood. When are you going to forcefully and publically come out against the speculation that is causing people to have to live multigenerationally? I see that Gretchen Morgenson wrote an article recently about speculation, but that sort of thing should be front page. Will Rogers spoke about speculation in the Great Depression, and it was front page news. And instead of just one article, the great NY Times ran the Rogers column regularly so that many people understood the severity of speculatioon upon the economy of the Roaring Twenties.
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This is insane, multi-generational housing is the best thing ever.
awsome!
I agree,the benefits are obvious.
Hi,
Katie from Zillow here. I work closely with Stan Humphries.
I just wanted to clarify that Zillow does not have a position on multi-generational housing. It is certainly a good choice for many families, for both economic and non-economic reasons.
What we addressed was involuntary doubling up because of the recession, and how the trend affects the housing market. Statistically, the incidence of households doubling up has increased by nearly 11% from 2007 to 2011, according to the Census. For adults aged 25 to 34, it has increased by nearly 26%. This takes a lot of potential homebuyers out of the market, and buyers are essential for an eventual housing market recovery.
Nothing new with this trend other than the unemployed ( unemployable in most cases ) single young men that sponge off their willing Baby Boomer parents...Multi-generational housing was common at the turn of the century with over 50% of the population living as such...Post WW2 saw movement into the suburbs and single family housing...The economy was good and everyone wanted their own castle...Multi-generational households dwindled down to 17%...
With the economy in the toilet, long-term unemployment at 44% of all unemployed workers, a 27% increase in what college administrators call " professional students ", delayed marriage, and increased divorce rates, no wonder multi-generational households have risen to 25% from a low of 12% in just 10 years...
And yes, of the last three slacker generations, X, Y, and Z, many have a large " L " on their foreheads, as in Leeches...
Hi bgamall,
Our position is that household compression hurts housing demand, and that the best way to address this is by addressing employment -- which Stan said in his interview. If those who don't want to live in compressed households, but who are doing so simply for financial reasons, have more access to jobs, they will have the opportunity to form their own households and contribute to housing demand.
Just to give you the full context, here is what Stan said, taken right from the interview on The Daily Ticker.
"... The other chief driver (of the housing market) is unemployment, and that's directly addressable through policy means. Unemployment is incredibly important because it contributes to consumer confidence, it gets people off the fence when buying homes and it contributes to household formation. That's very important. Just last week the census bureau told us that 22 million households were doubled up. That's adult children living with their parents and multiple families living under one roof. We have to get those people out of the households, and that creates housing demand."
You can also a longer explanation of this issue in the written testimony that we submitted for a Senate Banking subcommittee hearing earlier this week:
I'm totally wrong..? By what standard..? By whose criteria am I wrong, totally wrong..? Your contrived and tortured rhetoric comes right out of the progressive collectivist handbook that opposes individualism, free markets, and free minds...
Your pathetic appeals to " patriotism " by subscribing to a multi-generational household model reeks of fascist progressive statism...
Your rabid denunciation of the Tea Party is a hate-filled pronouncement signifying nothing but a reiteration of talking points from the daily Kos...
The Tea Party is simply Americans that want to hold government accountable for their actions...They are demanding that government reduce spending, lower taxes, and become fiscally responsible...You have a problem with that..?
Do you really expect me to respond to this sophomoric bleat..? Arguing with a progressive fascist is like wrestling a pig in mud; We both get muddy, and the pig loves it...














Deborah-Diane Level 5 Commenter 8 months ago
Living in multi-generational housing is the only thing that is keeping some people off the streets. It is also a good way to raise children, since they are rarely left alone.